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Asad Khan's avatar

Timely! God talk is percolating across the world. For me, I think the modern wave of AI - literally speaking to our computers and seeing them speak back - has been a significant motivator for this. Hard to know which way is up once the machines start talking eh?

Don Salmon's avatar

I've thought for many years that lucid dreaming could be the key to deconstructing materialism. But generally, if people haven't had lucid dreams they don't 'get it'

False awakenings are even more powerful, but again, when people haven't experienced them, it's hard to convey the power of them. A false awakening is when you think you've woken up, you're in bed, you get up to have breakfast, and then realize you're still dreaming. When this happens just once it's not such a big deal, but if it happens 3 or 4 times in a row, it gets VERY VERY weird. about the 4th time, you've done EVERYTHING you can to check if you're awake or dreaming, and then BOOM you realize you were wrong. I've spent 5 minutes or more after the 5th or so false awakening before I was convinced I was "really" awake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yevfc2fVSyY - best illustration of the disorienting effect of false awakenings i've ever seen.

As for dreams being lonely, sorry, there's not definitive evidence but enough compelling evidence for shared dreams that Tallis is wrong.

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